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Secret Downtide Fishing Tips


Welcome to the Totally Awesome Fishing show .In this episode I am going to be telling you guys all my secrets okay on tips for downtide fishing. We are going to be using things like this-booms.

You buy them in the shop or you can make your own which I do out of clothes hangers. You can find out more about this on our how to section here but also –let me get that out of the way –you can also watch if you want and you love the outdoors –Mike’s Totally Awesome Outdoor show. He has got DIYs.He has got things on rabbit skinning, pheasant shooting and also bushcraft .If you like bushcraft just check it out. It’s really good. It’s a bit of a fun .We enjoy filming it .Let’s get out on the boat. It’s the Hi Sea Drifter, the world’s most famous fishing boat .Let’s see if this guy actually can catch anything.

Okay here we go. Imagine if you are on a private boat. Imagine you are on a charter boat. There is your bait, your trace and there is the boom we talked about. You can see it makes that shape there. When you lower it down this doesn’t tangle around the main line or shouldn’t do if you don’t let it down too fast. So imagine these other anglers on the boat here. You are on a charter boat and you are at the top end. If you are at the top end you can see you have got a really heavy lead there. Now listen you have to ask the skipper on the day who you are fishing with what size lead.

He will help you out. He will tell you. He knows exactly. The last thing he wants is tangles. He wants people to cash fish. Go home. Happy vonnies-you know that’s the way it is. So he is going to be there to help you. So a heavy lead, I am at the front of the boat. An imaginary guy is here or imaginary friends we call them just out here downtide fishing. I don’t want to tangle with him so I have got a heavy lead. I just lower the trace over the side like this. The bait hits the water. The tide which is like a river current straightens her really well. The boom is hanging like that and then I just start to lower it down. I have got it out of here. It could be a star drag with a single lever or it could be a lever drag either way it’s in free spool.

Let’s say free spool like this okay .I am going to let it go down nice and smooth like this. Nice and smooth till you feel it hit the bottom. Now if you watch the tip when it’s going down you must keep in contact with it as that spool is revolving like that till you can feel it hit the bottom. Let it go down at a constant speed like this till it hit the bottom. Now I have still got it out of gear .I have my thumb locked on it. I am going to sweep the rod up here like this. This levers the lead off the bottom. The tide swings it up .it is like a bow in the line like this, leaves off the bottom then I am going to spool it back and lower the rod at the same time. So free spool here. Bump. I felt the lead hit and lock it up. I let the lead and the line sit on the seabed.

The water pressure from the current, either like from a river that’s flowing, imagine it’s like a river that pushes against that line like this. We want to swing the lead up and it won’t swing the lead up. So I sweep it up again, free spool-ah bump. I felt the lead hit. No you do this till you get it so far back as I mentioned earlier that you downtide fishing are doing this with it from the side on. It’s going up- bump, up-bump, up -bump, you are just levering it back all the time. It’s called bumping down tide. Now eventually the angle on the line –I am just going to do this with it-instead of being, imagine this is the line .It’s going to be back like this .

The current is pushing against this but sliding down if you can imagine. Instead of being like this and pushing against it vertically on the line, it’s sort of sliding down it. So the further you can get it back bumping, bear in mind you can only go so far with a heavy lead, the better and eventually you will be doing this. It won’t bump anymore. Free spool, bearly bumps, bearly bumps so that’s the limit where that lead in particular, that particular weight of lead is happy. It sits way back there at an angle. It out of everybody else’s way at this end; sort of match it with this end with the lines way back there because the guys right down the stern there are using lighter leads. They are even further back so we are staggered. We are all staggered down there. Okay one more bump. Okay free spool. Take her down .Bang feel it hit and then I just lock up the drag .Put it in gear whichever way we use and just tuck it under my arm and I can hold it .If you want to put it down, put it down. Make sure you put a lanyard or a clip on it so it doesn’t go over the side and a lot of the time you can rest it. A lot of the charter boats have little v-notches along rails where you can rest your rod and my advice is put a little tie on it as well just in case it goes over.
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Hi guys this is the sort of fishing you can get when the downtiding really does go well. This one- let’s move everything to the other side. This one is good fish. You can see now this is a really nice ray. I guess it’s a pullback and the other one is still going. It’s a beautiful undulated ray .You want to see this one under water. Lovely colours in it and they are typical species you can get downtide fishing. It’s twisted up in the tide which is really pulling on the flood tide and of course it’s that tide that helps keep everything straight along the bottom and that’s when you should get the best of the fishing .I will try and lift this one in for you. Come on boy. Look at this one people. Look at this one. That is a nice big undulated ray.

What a super fish and look what he has taken-a whole mackerel. Keep away from those jaws and I think as you can see those grinding teeth there. I think they extend more on this type of species of ray. This undu in particular, notorious of a being –I think there is another fish on that rod. Can you go and straighten that for me? I can’t do two at once. That’s a male. I guess it weighs about ten, eleven pounds. Just pop the hook out, hopefully. I wonder what is on the other one. Here is the hook. Six o, —-. Let’s throw you over sea. Let’s get this one back guys because I want to see what’s on the other one.

Okay now this lead, same shape, it’s about half a pound so I have got a pound and a half on this one and this one it’s just over –it’s about a pound, pound and a quarter. Same running boom downtide fishing there, bait, —trace. This time a squid is being elasticated on with bait elastic. That’s important in a strong tide to keep it nice and straight as you can see absolutely nice and strait the elastic keeps it in one line. It doesn’t spin. You do not want a bait that’s spinning. The same thing, so there is guy up here, a guy here. It’s all imaginary. There is a guy here, a guy here. I don’t know that guy anyway.

One here and I am at the stern of the boat. I just drop my bait over the side and let the current pull the trace straight so that that boom is pointed in that direction. Out of gear and I am lowering it down. This particular one is braid so I am definitely going to feel the lead hit the bottom. Nice even speed that it goes down at so you do not go too fast or it twist up but fast enough that you want to be able to hit the bottom and feel it there .Bang you hit the bottom. Now this, because it’s a finer diameter it has less water pressure on it and less stretch so therefore it will cut through the water better and with less stretch I will be able to feel that lead hit the seabed. Each time I want to bounce it back downtide I lift it with a free spool here and let it sort of fly back in the current .As soon as it hits I will know. Pull the rod back, sweeping the lead up. There you go free spool.

Bang I can feel the lead hit through the tip. You can actually feel it. Now when you get it out there a long way-it’s sometimes -you might get maybe eighty yards ,eighty or a hundred yards away. You might have to hold the rod like this. Sweep it right back, free spool and let it go fast until it hits bang. It’s a millisecond it hits but you have to be sure that you are on the seabed otherwise all you are doing, the current just swings it up and you are holding it like this all that it has done is swung the lead high up in the water. All the sea fish in the world down here don’t know it’s up there and you will catch nothing.  downtide fishing It’s got be on the bed, on the seabed. Out of gear, —is full. Lift, spooling back .Bang .Now each time the further it goes back you are reducing that steep bank with the line. It’s doing this. It’s going to go less and less and you will know when that lead is getting at the right angle, when the water is going down the line rather than against it because you will be spooling back less line each time.

It’s about two or three other bump there. Lift free spool-bang. Just take out a few slack or pause. Let the water pressure build up on the line again. I just repeat the procedure .Already because it is braid I am doing less and less bumping downtide. This half doesn’t turn with the spool each time. This braid is about forty pounds. I do not like thin braid whatsoever. It’s a nightmare to work with and un––well you don’t untangle it you just attack with a pair of scissors or a knife. At least with this thick braid you got half a chance. I am nearly at the limit now. This could change obviously. You got to remember if the tide is increasing you are going to have to do this more and more but as it decreases your next block down-if the tide is going to slack off you won’t need to do this much. Your lead would be closer to the boat. Don’t ever be worried about how far back you are bumping it.

I have caught fish way, way almost when the line is almost flat. Several times I have been fishing downtide on a charter boat and the skipper says- you won’t catch anything back there mate, and okay I just want this fish out of the way then. There we go that’s the limit. I will put the drag up. I will put the clicker on and another point to raise, don’t keep the ratchet, you know the clicker -we are going to call it the ratchet clicker –the audible sound on –when you drag too light because if you don’t have that ratchet on you might not hear it and it might be ticking out, ticking out, ticking out the water pressure on the line so put the little clicker on. You can hear that. If it’s doing that all the time with the tide, pop-up the drag a bit more. It’s got a star drag; pull up the wheel at the side, a little bit tighter. One more for life. Let’s see that’s done, and the other thing is if—the other thing is to fall over. The other thing is as the tide reduces don’t forget everybody can use less weight. The guy with a pound and a half up the front of the boat up here –these two guys they can drop to a pound. The same thing applies back here. They need to reduce theirs as well otherwise – you got the same principle everybody with a pound less, you get a cluster at the back and a spin-up and its going to be nightmare —. You need to have heavy leads at the front for downtiding, medium weight, off the stern-those are the guys that should be using the lightest weights. If anyone that can get away with a heavy weight is the guy in the middle who is in line with the anchor rope .Nobody from the side is going to run their traces, their terminals into his. He is pretty safe in the centre of the boat. A nice place to be. You don’t always get it. Can we?

Well I can. I will just put a shark over there.Thats what we call casual fishing. I am just taking it for granted with that fish. It’s hooked on the other side. I have got to move my rods out of the way now. Here is a ——. I will try and leave these others out okay. It’s not possible. I will leave this one down there. Okay the only benefit you have got of fishing like I do plenty of deck space, plenty of space there to put more rods out and get into even bigger tangles. Let’s check this one out. Let’s switch this one around for you. Hopefully it won’t go over the side.

There is something out there. There is something out there. I wonder if it is a twin. Big pieces of wheeling out there—- actively putting pressure on the line. Oh, kicking, kicking —- and I have got the right pressure and I have got the right pressure –my boom is —-fifty weight down the middle of a pressure shock line. Floats back out there or in here. Oh come on, come on. It’s like a weird catch out there. That does not feel like a ray. The tide just started to fluc and as soon as that flucs out there -you aint finding two bites on a downtide rod. I am not even bothering –oh –I am not even bothering with uptide either. I don’t like this hitch either. It’s on braid. It can often tear a hook like that. The right hook hold –I am not really a lover of fighting fish on braid. I have had a few big ones like a giant Sturgeon- weigh a few hundred pounds – about a hundred or hundred and twenty pounds braid. Its gripping, it’s gripping. One of the benefit of downtide fishing, you don’t know what you are going to catch next. Whoa! It’s only a kangaroo. Let me see if I can just lift this one on the trace. Definitely eaten it. You got to walk through the trace. You just have to take my word there is a fish here. Here he comes! Here he comes, here he comes fishing downtide.

I wonder upside down, do they go into tonic immobility like on our other films? Let me turn it so you can see the jaws here. You see that big, big crushing head there. Now if that grabbed a finger and started spinning, its every chance it would take your finger off even one this size which is about twelve ,fourteen pounds something like that. Nice kango to have fished it downtide. Way to go. Here we go. Go on Kango, back over the side. What else will the day bring? There you go buddy. I will give you a check. Fishing along on those small boats, guys make sure you just use a rag and wipe that kango slime off the deck. You don’t want to go over and it is yucky stuff.

And its grip the line now. This must be a pretty big fish. Just goes to show you that going down the centre you can often pick off a bigger fish because your own smell channel is going down there. The smell channel of the other guys, there might six or eight guys in the charter boat – this is a really big fish. Six or eight guys in a charter boat and they are all going to compete with your bait. This way the one in the middle has his own isolated. I got to stick with this fish here. It’s weird. Holy cow it’s a really big smoothhound. Oh my goodness, it’s just hanging there .Hang on people.

Here we go guys. Hope you enjoyed it .Totally Awesome Fishing show, plenty of fishing tips. Going to get this guy back. A beautiful undulated ray, a nice kangaroo and finish off  fishing downtide with a really big smoothhound, just like he wants to go about maybe twelve pounds.
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